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absolutely wonderful read. cannot understate the hope it inspires in me - while reading this i thought back to those pieces of media that /have/ imprinted on me, that i hold in my mind, and realized i had more of them than i thought. this article makes me want to hold on to them so much stronger.

and i absolutely love that you touched on the meta web weaves - because there absolutely are tumblr or twitter posts that i think about, that have put into words feelings that i couldnt otherwise articulate. which is /all/ art, i suppose, longform or otherwise, but. its nice to see silly little twitter posts get that same attention in the article, because sometimes they do have value.

anyway im rambling. i wish you a good day, dear author!

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Good morning! It’s Leigh. Hello!

It’s uncountable the number of times I’ve read this and been uncertain as to what to comment - because I do want to; this elicits a genuine reaction of both frustrated defensiveness and fervent agreement with so much of what you said. This quote in particular:

“When read properly, adoringly, deeply, one poem lasts a lifetime. You can stop buying.“

sends me to a shallow grave every time I read it. Because it does. It do. It sure fucking do. When I first read this, I was halfway through memorizing a poem that I - yes, I wanted to have it by my side, forever, if a solar flare cropped up and killed every piece of technology made in the last fifty years, I wanted it to be forever with me, to never have to rely on something outside my body to hold it for me. I was stuck, frozen, rereading this sentence over and over. That’s the first thing.

I gotta say though, as someone who absolutely has loved those sorts of posts on tumblr, it’s actually hard to like, not want to get mad in defense of ~web weaving~. I don’t know - I suppose I’ve thought of them more as the celebration of an idea shared between so many different people. You know that tweet, “the nature of humanity is just that every so often someone accidentally invents homestuck again”? (Now you do.) That’s what it makes me think of. That ten different people, artists, all shared the same thought, the same feeling, came to the same conclusion independently of one another - that we aren’t all so different, that we all feel this way about this thing, at least just a little bit.

But i suppose it’s a bit morbid, like you said - cherry-picking one creature out of an ecosystem and drawing a line to another, totally separate creature in a totally separate ecosystem without bothering with the evolution or the environment around them. I guess you just want it all to be easy sometimes, you know? That these conclusions can be drawn so simply. That you can pull from mountains and oceans and marshes and say look, these things are all the same. And you want it to be true so badly. But the eagle and the gull and the heron are still all birds, no?

It’s just that everything will always be out of context unless it is happening right Now. And you’re right, the superficial engagement with a tasting board of cherry-picked quotations spanning two hundred plus years is certainly one path to believing you’re engaging in art when in reality you’re barely snacking on passed hors d’oeuvres. But I don’t think that’s the only thing it is.

I’ve made one before - the nature of humanity, web weaving, whatever you want to call it. It was a painstaking process. It surrounded three pieces of music to which I wanted to give some context, provide food for thought, a new way of engaging with the art. I chose relevant quotes about the pieces themselves, pieces of art with themes that related to the music, moments of poetry that aligned with the form. And I like to think it worked, that people listened with an enriched ear, that they took what I offered and tried to connect the dots between the different media. But I know that it wasn’t Frankenstein’s monster, and I know it wasn’t reductive to the pieces of art themselves. They weren’t meant to represent themselves in whole, but to bolster a greater concept. The same thought, the same understanding, repeated over and over in different words and colors and patterns.

I told you yesterday I didn’t want to post the comment because I felt I was just restating your point again. I’ve given it thought (read: sleep) and I think I’ve kind of restated your point but in defense of web weaving? With most of the article devoted to the criticism of web weaving and then a hand motion at the end to say that in some circumstances it’s not so bad, and I’ve done the opposite: most of the comment in defense and then in the middle a hand motion to say that yeah, it’s got its pitfalls. I think I disagree with you on the ratio, or the percentage, or the amount of white and black the painter mixes into the gray.

Anyway, unless you really, really hate my opinion, let’s definitely be friends! It was nice talking to you yesterday and I wish I had more time. Byyyeeeee!!

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